A fact check , of the sort usually made in ……. A Novichock Moment?
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
It's not my figure it's the ONS figure. Excess Mortality has been anomalous for the past few months and Not due to Covid? is it lockdown or Adverse reactions? or, something else? @JoeBlob20 @financialeyes @ukcolumn @BreesAnna @SueC00K @scientificecon @jbhearn @Pathos14658352
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
The same arguments apply for Covid 19 deaths throughout the pandemic. The point is that adverse reactions in young people outweigh the risks of the Disease. Is The Cure worse than the disease?
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Could you provide your Source, please?https://t.co/vueYFtAB3q
has a wide range of excess death data the comorbidity question is key do you have a source for the claim that "more than 1000 people a day of a single cause." What cause are you claiming and where is the data set?— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
I Live in Sweden, I am 57 and recovered from Covid earlier this year.https://t.co/2iSLponAP8 I have positive antibodies and I am aware that T Cell factors coupled with Antibodies perhaps give me a more comprehensive Immune response than if I had Vaccinated to avoid infection. pic.twitter.com/wAmdM3JJQ6
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Why only for New York?
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
It is obvious that more people die of almost all causes if they are older or have significant health problems. ‘Underlying condition’ doesn’t describe a significant health problem, it can mean anything. Many people have a condition of some sort. The data set is weak.
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
You are making unsubstantiated claims unsupported by Data. The Data to support your claims is non-existent not merely weak.
Whether Children or Youths have any health benefit from Vaccination is doubtful indeed the Governments own committee advised against— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
This is your unsubstantiated claim
"People died in excess during the peaks of the pandemic, 1."more than 1000 people a day of a single cause". 2. "Lives shortened on average by 10 years".
3. The adverse reactions don’t outweigh the risks of disease in any age group.— Pathos (@Pathos14658352) September 28, 2021
You will not be able to provide any data to suggest vaccines pose a higher risk than infection to any age group.
Or that less than 1000 people a day died of Covid during the peaks in the UK
Or that lives were not shortened significantly by Covid
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
Of or with is irrelevant. If Covid causes multi organ failure and sepsis, that will appear first on your death certificate, it’s caused by Covid. The only people who try to make the distinction are people who have zero clinical understanding of causes of death.
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
You weren’t talking about children or youths here. https://t.co/1OMfHHnCz3
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
Your data is 7 months old for starters.
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
The point of our interaction was regarding Vaccinating Children, I think we are done with that. The Links and Data in the thread are all from referenced sources and linked to the source where I have quoted them. They are not My Data or my Graphs.
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
My argument is that I agree with JCVI and feel the data does not point to a justification of a universal Vaccination Mandate. Regarding the other matters regarding policy around the Pandemic, I live in Sweden and Find the Swedish Approach both more level headed and Logical.
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Does not mean it was wrong.
— Professor John Hearn (@jbhearn) September 28, 2021
I disagree I think Sweden got it right compared with the UK.
— Professor John Hearn (@jbhearn) September 28, 2021
In Sweden, Lövens opinion didn't override the Epidemiological stance led by Tegnel and His department.
The Decisions taken by SAGE I don't think can be gauged as Objective from a Public Health stance Alone . The Decisions of Tegnel were https://t.co/tjYAfWRI0Z— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Per mil pic.twitter.com/2ILfJOlPbX
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
I've highlight the times where Sweden had up to 50% excess death but neither Norway or Finland ever experienced that.
Sweden only looks reasonable here because of the colour map scale comparisons to the worst countries in the world.
Still really bad. pic.twitter.com/uFAp9RC6Qx
— JCmacc (@JCmacc1) September 28, 2021
2/3 The Economist Link has a full chart of all countries there are problems comparing data across different countries. Swedish Data in my own experience is usually pretty reliable, for some reason, Objective data reporting is high on the Swedish List of Priorities.
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
https://t.co/1fRZQiAUs5
Can a mild flu season really explain Sweden’s high coronavirus mortality?https://t.co/D3Aa0fKKUL pic.twitter.com/C8Y7VCh0jg— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Is there a reason this paper was drafted in Aug 2020, and is still a pre-print? The ref list is woeful.
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
Parklife !!
— JCmacc (@JCmacc1) September 28, 2021
Getting Back to the Original Point is there a case for Vaccinating Children, Youths or Younger Adults? Hardly!
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
https://t.co/De5CPkdB0n @JoeBlob20 pic.twitter.com/pVWh2fEEmU
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
https://t.co/P95uKxVlQ9 @EffectsFacts
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
These are not commentaries on Medicine or clinical matters but Demographic contributory factors to Measurable outcomes Demographics is part of the landscape of Economic and Social Geography. Analytics, modelling and statistical enquiry into Data sets are not Medicine
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
Science, skepticism, rugby and cricket. Oh, and stuff. ? Pot Kettle Black!
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 28, 2021
All their ‘research’ had been out of date, or used cropped dates to include certain periods only for a constructed bias. It’s an obvious tactic!
— whatsinaname?? (@thatsnotmine125) September 28, 2021
@thatsnotmine125 @JCmacc1
Thank you for making the points that you have and for remaining courteous. Sincerely. Roger— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 29, 2021
— GrubStreetJournal (@GrubStreetJorno) September 29, 2021
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